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		<title>By: footnoted.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All eyes on the Iphone&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.com/blog-notes/giving-up-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>footnoted.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All eyes on the Iphone&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an awful lot like the &#8220;out the door&#8221; accounting method. Footnoted regulars know about my own Iphone experience. It will be interesting to see how the numbers stack [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an awful lot like the &#8220;out the door&#8221; accounting method. Footnoted regulars know about my own Iphone experience. It will be interesting to see how the numbers stack [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob D</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.com/blog-notes/giving-up-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on your experience I&#039;m holding off on even going to look at maybe buying one. People who get working models rave about them, but could this be another Playstation 3 quality fiasco?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on your experience I&#8217;m holding off on even going to look at maybe buying one. People who get working models rave about them, but could this be another Playstation 3 quality fiasco?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Leder</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.com/blog-notes/giving-up-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Leder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes -- hard to believe. But true. Though the serial numbers on the two phones were vastly different, I bought them both at the same time, so perhaps it was just a bad lot. Or my bad luck. When I exchanged the first phone last Friday, I swapped it out for the second phone, which I had bought to auction for charity and decided to return when it received no bids. Maybe I should have insisted on an entirely different phone. 

I also thought it was interesting that AT&amp;T got the type of phone wrong on my account. Though I bought an 8, they had it listed on their site as a 4. No difference in price (as far as AT&amp;T is concerned), but another sign that the lines of communication between Apple and AT&amp;T may not be working all that well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8212; hard to believe. But true. Though the serial numbers on the two phones were vastly different, I bought them both at the same time, so perhaps it was just a bad lot. Or my bad luck. When I exchanged the first phone last Friday, I swapped it out for the second phone, which I had bought to auction for charity and decided to return when it received no bids. Maybe I should have insisted on an entirely different phone. </p>
<p>I also thought it was interesting that AT&#038;T got the type of phone wrong on my account. Though I bought an 8, they had it listed on their site as a 4. No difference in price (as far as AT&#038;T is concerned), but another sign that the lines of communication between Apple and AT&#038;T may not be working all that well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drinkard</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.com/blog-notes/giving-up-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drinkard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had my iPhone (8gb) since 6/30.  I has operated flawlessly.  I did have to reset it once after experiencing a few dropped web pages on Safari.  Otherwise it has been a complete joy to move through the web, use the phone, email, the works!  There are some things that could improve which have all been listed at numerous places on the web.  Nevertheless, I am delighted with mine and will not depart with it.  Even the criticized battery life has been performing well on my use which has been reasonably heavy.  

Michele, hard to believe you got such duds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my iPhone (8gb) since 6/30.  I has operated flawlessly.  I did have to reset it once after experiencing a few dropped web pages on Safari.  Otherwise it has been a complete joy to move through the web, use the phone, email, the works!  There are some things that could improve which have all been listed at numerous places on the web.  Nevertheless, I am delighted with mine and will not depart with it.  Even the criticized battery life has been performing well on my use which has been reasonably heavy.  </p>
<p>Michele, hard to believe you got such duds.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilhelm Jakob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilhelm Jakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did buy severel stocks of aapl however; I don&#039;t know what I want to do with it and am looking around to see if these kind of things are happening. The stock is still rising in price, but I don&#039;t know if I want to sell now or wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did buy severel stocks of aapl however; I don&#8217;t know what I want to do with it and am looking around to see if these kind of things are happening. The stock is still rising in price, but I don&#8217;t know if I want to sell now or wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Leder</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.com/blog-notes/giving-up-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Leder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not exactly choosing a Treo over the Iphone. I bought the Iphone and it didn&#039;t work, so I exchanged it for another one. That one also had problems and the only solution Apple was able to offer after hours of phone troubleshooting was to exchange it for yet another one. Rather than risk the chance that I&#039;d wind up with a third dud and waste even more time, I&#039;ve decided to sit tight for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not exactly choosing a Treo over the Iphone. I bought the Iphone and it didn&#8217;t work, so I exchanged it for another one. That one also had problems and the only solution Apple was able to offer after hours of phone troubleshooting was to exchange it for yet another one. Rather than risk the chance that I&#8217;d wind up with a third dud and waste even more time, I&#8217;ve decided to sit tight for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought mine the day they were released and its been pretty much flawless for me in the two weeks I&#039;ve had it.   My wife has had a treo for about a year now and I personally hate that thing, its clunky, ugly and I can never figure out how to use it.   The iPhone is like a dream come true for me. Its simple, easy to use and does pretty much everything i could ever want in a handheld device in a way that seems natural and uncomplicated.  I must say that its a bit of a mystery to me as why someone would choose a treo over the iPhone, but I guess we&#039;re all different.  To me, thats like giving up on indoor plumbing and going back to using outhouses because you had a dripping faucet.

 As for the quality, I&#039;ve acidentally dropped it from 4 feet straight onto concrete twice (you can see the places of impact on the casing), it sat in my hot car all day during a 108 degree weather last weekend and it works perfectly.    I find the connection quality and sound to be much better than the motorola phone i was using previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought mine the day they were released and its been pretty much flawless for me in the two weeks I&#8217;ve had it.   My wife has had a treo for about a year now and I personally hate that thing, its clunky, ugly and I can never figure out how to use it.   The iPhone is like a dream come true for me. Its simple, easy to use and does pretty much everything i could ever want in a handheld device in a way that seems natural and uncomplicated.  I must say that its a bit of a mystery to me as why someone would choose a treo over the iPhone, but I guess we&#8217;re all different.  To me, thats like giving up on indoor plumbing and going back to using outhouses because you had a dripping faucet.</p>
<p> As for the quality, I&#8217;ve acidentally dropped it from 4 feet straight onto concrete twice (you can see the places of impact on the casing), it sat in my hot car all day during a 108 degree weather last weekend and it works perfectly.    I find the connection quality and sound to be much better than the motorola phone i was using previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being an Apple devotee since ,81, I too drooled over the iPhone. I went into a store and fiddled with one then went out and bought a new Treo 755p replacing a mediocre Motorola &quot;Q&quot; which had replaced a flawed Treo 700p. As a real estate agent, my phone is mission critical and now that the Treo (Palm OS) is wrung out and works, I just wasn&#039;t ready to go with v. 1.0 anything, but I am watching closely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an Apple devotee since ,81, I too drooled over the iPhone. I went into a store and fiddled with one then went out and bought a new Treo 755p replacing a mediocre Motorola &#8220;Q&#8221; which had replaced a flawed Treo 700p. As a real estate agent, my phone is mission critical and now that the Treo (Palm OS) is wrung out and works, I just wasn&#8217;t ready to go with v. 1.0 anything, but I am watching closely&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics as usual.

Wireless-phone industry tactics criticized
3:39p ET July 11, 2007 (MarketWatch) 
Wireless-phone industry tactics criticized

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday took the wireless-phone industry to task, criticizing high early-termination fees and the inability to use mobile devices such as the new iPhone on different networks.

Before switching to another wireless provider, mobile customers usually have to pay $175 or more to terminate their current plan and they have to get a new phone. Devices that work on one U.S. wireless network rarely work on another - in part because carriers use different technologies or have exclusive marketing arrangements with handset makers.

The new iPhone by Apple Inc. is a case in point. The device, costing $500 to $600, is only available via AT&amp;T Inc., with an early-termination fee of $175. Yet the AT&amp;T network on which the iPhone operates is much slower than rival networks when it comes to Internet access. 

Rep. Edward Markey, chairman of a key House committee on telecommunications, noted that customers who don&#039;t like AT&amp;T&#039;s network can&#039;t move to another provider.

&quot;You&#039;re stuck with your iPhone and you can&#039;t take it anywhere,&quot; the Massachusetts Democrat said.

Markey and other lawmakers leveled their criticism Wednesday during a hearing ostensibly to determine whether the federal government should bar states from regulating the wireless industry. Mobile carriers say it&#039;s very costly to comply with multiple state laws.

At present, states can oversee the terms and conditions of wireless plans but are prevented from regulating prices.

For the most part, though, lawmakers spent their time focusing on wireless-industry practices that they say hurt consumers and stifle innovation. Many would like to see companies reduce early-termination fees or allow subscribers to use their handsets on any network they choose.

Several industry critics who testified at the hearing noted that Asia and Europe obligate carriers to ensure that any device will work with their networks.

Wireless entrepreneur Jason Devitt, chief executive of SkyDeck, said 800 devices would work on Vodafone Group plc&#039;s wireless network in Europe, whereas only 30 devices work on Verizon&#039;s network in the U.S.

He accused mobile operators such as Verizon and AT&amp;T of having a &quot;deathgrip&quot; on handset choices in the U.S.

Wireless executives defended the industry, saying it&#039;s highly competitive and arguing that costs to consumers would rise if government required devices to work on all networks.

Some lawmakers, both Democrats and Republicans, also expressed reluctance to tamper with what most acknowledged was a healthy and fast-growing industry.

&quot;The wireless-service market is vigorously competitive,&quot; said Fred Upton, R.-Mich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics as usual.</p>
<p>Wireless-phone industry tactics criticized<br />
3:39p ET July 11, 2007 (MarketWatch)<br />
Wireless-phone industry tactics criticized</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) &#8211; U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday took the wireless-phone industry to task, criticizing high early-termination fees and the inability to use mobile devices such as the new iPhone on different networks.</p>
<p>Before switching to another wireless provider, mobile customers usually have to pay $175 or more to terminate their current plan and they have to get a new phone. Devices that work on one U.S. wireless network rarely work on another &#8211; in part because carriers use different technologies or have exclusive marketing arrangements with handset makers.</p>
<p>The new iPhone by Apple Inc. is a case in point. The device, costing $500 to $600, is only available via AT&amp;T Inc., with an early-termination fee of $175. Yet the AT&amp;T network on which the iPhone operates is much slower than rival networks when it comes to Internet access. </p>
<p>Rep. Edward Markey, chairman of a key House committee on telecommunications, noted that customers who don&#8217;t like AT&amp;T&#8217;s network can&#8217;t move to another provider.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re stuck with your iPhone and you can&#8217;t take it anywhere,&#8221; the Massachusetts Democrat said.</p>
<p>Markey and other lawmakers leveled their criticism Wednesday during a hearing ostensibly to determine whether the federal government should bar states from regulating the wireless industry. Mobile carriers say it&#8217;s very costly to comply with multiple state laws.</p>
<p>At present, states can oversee the terms and conditions of wireless plans but are prevented from regulating prices.</p>
<p>For the most part, though, lawmakers spent their time focusing on wireless-industry practices that they say hurt consumers and stifle innovation. Many would like to see companies reduce early-termination fees or allow subscribers to use their handsets on any network they choose.</p>
<p>Several industry critics who testified at the hearing noted that Asia and Europe obligate carriers to ensure that any device will work with their networks.</p>
<p>Wireless entrepreneur Jason Devitt, chief executive of SkyDeck, said 800 devices would work on Vodafone Group plc&#8217;s wireless network in Europe, whereas only 30 devices work on Verizon&#8217;s network in the U.S.</p>
<p>He accused mobile operators such as Verizon and AT&amp;T of having a &#8220;deathgrip&#8221; on handset choices in the U.S.</p>
<p>Wireless executives defended the industry, saying it&#8217;s highly competitive and arguing that costs to consumers would rise if government required devices to work on all networks.</p>
<p>Some lawmakers, both Democrats and Republicans, also expressed reluctance to tamper with what most acknowledged was a healthy and fast-growing industry.</p>
<p>&#8220;The wireless-service market is vigorously competitive,&#8221; said Fred Upton, R.-Mich.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Leder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Leder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of my friends also say it&#039;s changed their life. And I&#039;m genuinely happy for them. But I got to a point where I couldn&#039;t waste any more time trying to make it work, even though giving in meant admitting that I had already wasted countless hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of my friends also say it&#8217;s changed their life. And I&#8217;m genuinely happy for them. But I got to a point where I couldn&#8217;t waste any more time trying to make it work, even though giving in meant admitting that I had already wasted countless hours.</p>
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